00:00 Chris Grainger
Welcome to the Lion within a podcast serving Christian men who are hunger to be the leaders they’re predestined to be. I’m your host, Chris Grainger. Let’s jump in. All right guys. It is your meet episode of the week, and I’m so glad you’re here. This is gonna be a powerful conversation, guys. You not gonna wanna miss this one?

Speaking specifically about anointed leadership, what that looks like and how you can apply that in your life now, you know we’re gonna always start every episode with scripture. Listen, this week we’re in judges. I get it. We’re in judges. This is old, Old Testament here. Judges four, really one through nine, but focused just on verses eight for the week, if you will.

Barack said to her, If you go with me, I will go, but if you do not go with me, I won’t go. The guys, I unpack that scripture in depth on our spiritual kickoff, go listen to it. And there’s a ton of insight to learn there, specifically around leadership. That you can apply to your life. Okay? So go check that spiritual kickoff out and go read judges for one through nine.

Just read that chapter four. Guys, you’re gonna get a ton of wisdom and insight to discern just from those, those verses. So for our guest today, I have joining with us Terry Lins Scott. Okay. He is a devoted family man who has established leadership principles in every area of his life, guys. Okay? He’s a senior pastor at Abundant Life Church in Radcliffe, Kentucky.

So got a good old Kentucky guy here with us. He’s served in a ministry since 1993, and he was an associate pastor for 18 years before taking a senior pastor role in 2020. He’s gonna talk about when he actually took that role at the very beginning of 2020. So imagine you were handed a brand new position, senior pastor January, 2020, how excited he was then came March and you want to hear what happened, because since that happened, some.

Incredible things. Guys have been happening in his life. And he attributes all of this for his passion around leadership and the people he has around him that he put in leadership positions, ultimately led them make good decisions, biblical decisions and growth that they could not imagine. So guys, it’s a powerful conversation.

We’re not just gonna be talking about church leadership. We’re gonna be talking about how you can lead right now at work, at home with your children and yourself. So guys, sit back and enjoy this conversation with Terry Lynn. Scott.

Terry, welcome to the Line Within Us. How you doing today, my friend?

02:40 Terry Linscott
I’m good. Chris, Thanks so much for having me on the show today. I look forward to having a great time and conversation and, and just talking about leadership in.

02:49 Chris Grainger
Amen bro. The guys are excited about this one. I kinda, I got ’em warmed up on a spiritual kickoff on Monday and tell ’em about this guy that’s gonna come in and talk about anointed leadership.

So I know they’re here. They’re dripping. They’re ready man. Before we get going too far, why don’t you give ’em a little bit about your bio now they’ve already heard my intro, so they heard Chris say a few words, but I love to let the guests himself actually give, give the guys a little bit about your background.

You know, maybe why should they even listen to you about anno leadership? Cause we’ll be talking about a topic that I. Exposed to so many of our listeners

03:18 Terry Linscott
hearts. Yeah, I appreciate that. Well, listen man, I’m just a, I’m a good old boy from Radcliffe, Kentucky, little south of Louisville, right next to Fort Knox.

Uh, I’m a married man of almost 30 years, uh, to my high school sweetheart. Uh, we have four children, uh, uh, three boys and one girl. My oldest is 27 and my youngest is 22. And, uh, three boys are all married. My daughter’s my. And, uh, she’s not gonna get married until Jesus comes, man. That’s what I keep saying.

So . So, uh, but, uh, I have three grand babies, one on the way. And, uh, I, I’ve been through the ringer with my wife. We’ve almost divorced a few times, but, uh, we took divorce off the table and I just decided to become a man, uh, of God and a man that leads the house well. Uh, I’m a senior pastor of Abundant Life Church in Radcliffe.

I took over in January of 2020, uh, and sure enough, three months later, the worst. Worst day in history of, of society through the pandemic. And, uh, what I did is I took the principles of God, of being, uh, just an anointed man of God and trusted God. And through the pandemic, most people that we’ve heard have either closed doors, uh, or they just declined.

We increased, Uh, we flourished. We went from about 170 people to over 500 today through the pandemic and just leadership principles and things that I teach in the church can be applied, um, in homes, uh, as well as in business and, and in churches. So that’s a little bit about me, you know, that you can where I’ve come from.

So,

04:51 Chris Grainger
Man, the, the, the timing of taking over that church, That’s pretty interesting. Right? Unless we were like, Okay, .

04:57 Terry Linscott
Yeah, I, God has a sense of humor. I think we both can agree to that. So, uh, but you know, I, I look back and I see, uh, the, the transition that happened. So I, I was, my in-law, uh, pioneered the church in 1986 and, uh, in 92 I graduated high school, went straight into some seminary here, which was correspondence, and I was the youth minister.

And then 2002, I was the associate. And, uh, I never thought I’d take over the church, but they handed it to me in 2020. And, and, and the transition and everything that happened, I’d part of the church and, and just being available to the, the congregation, uh, was great. But also with the different dynamics of the, the adjustments that needed to be made, uh, I think leadership is crucial.

and, uh, some people haven’t and some people don’t. And, and in that mindset when you need it, and, uh, it was just a great transition for us in our church, in our society, in our community, I should say. Yeah.

05:55 Chris Grainger
I mean, you know, I’ve talked to several pastors. I’ve been blessed on line with the end to be able to talk to some pastors and a couple of ’em are more on the, the, I guess you say, closer to the mega church in, so when you hear a couple hundred member grow for them, they’re, they, they, that, that, that’s a different scale.

Yeah. I’m very interested in this though, because this is more local. This is what guys are, are, I’m, I’m sure most of our guys are listening. They’re part of a smaller, smaller church. But to go from a hundred, what you say, 170 something to, so now you’re over five. That’s a, that’s a huge, huge jump within a couple years now.

Congratulations. I mean, what’s, what do you think was the biggest factor? What’s, what’s drawing people in to, to, to want to, to, to come, you know, not just come, come worship, but actually change their membership

06:38 Terry Linscott
over to your church. Yeah. Well I appreciate that, first of all, ultimately this is the beautiful thing, is I don’t believe in church shifting, like kingdom shifting.

I believe in kingdom growth, right? And, uh, most of our growth came from people that are de church. You know, that they got hurt by church 20, 30 years ago. Uh, people that had walked away from God for 10, 15 years. And, and a lot of people that first time salvations we’re talking about men of 30, 40, 50 years old.

And so our growth didn’t come from just shifting. It came from us really reaching out of our walls. And a lot of that comes, and if I could be really frank with it, is the leadership is the portion of being able to take, uh, think big and risk big, you know, is take risks in leadership and, uh, just challenge people to start talking about Jesus and the power of God and, and the fire of God.

You know, I believe in the fire of God in the Book of Acts that gets all over you. And, uh, you saw Peter, I, Peter I resignate a lot within the Bible. I, I just, he’s my favorite character. And you read about him and you think this guy’s a knucklehead. You know what I mean? You think some of the stuff that he did, but I think about this guy that denied Jesus, you know, three times.

And said that I would die for you, Jesus. He says, Oh no. You’re gonna deny me before the cock crows three times. You’re gonna deny me three times, you know? And then Jesus comes right back to him. And says, Peter, do you love me three different times, right? Well, after that day of Pentecost, we know that in the book of Acts that Peter’s the one that goes and preaches and 3000 people come to know Jesus that day.

I look at that man and I’m like the audacity of a guy that, that was hiding and now comes out public and is just willing to go after people and tell the truth. And I, I’ve challenged my church man, just start telling people about Jesus. Cuz I believe the days are, are, are limited. You know, we’re in that final hour, you know, we’re probably in the final seconds of, of of time.

And uh, so it’s time that we go out in the highways and byways and compel everybody that would come to know Christ now. And that’s really what’s happening in our church is we’ve really, is I pastor with great discipleship emphasis, but man, I’m challenging people to tell everybody they can about Jesus Christ.

Yeah. And that’s where, that’s a lot of it’s come from. And then I empower, I give a lot of people permission to function. Inside their, their. Yes. And uh, and it really helps. People want purpose. People want to know that there’s more to life than just attending a church.

09:08 Chris Grainger
Man, that is so cool. I mean, for one thing too, I, I’m, I’m think through of so many churches I talked to that are your size, they’re all about the members, you know, and, and focusing on the members versus the evangelism.

And I think that’s, But it sounds like for you, you guys are all in on evangelism. You’re taking, you’re taking the word, you’re spreading the gospel, and then they’re coming on. Cause you’re doing, you’re obedient to that. And I think, man, if there’s, there’s some pastors listening or maybe some church leaders listening, it takes hear what Terry’s doing because there’s reasons that Jesus says, Go therefore make disciples.

So, I mean, that’s, that’s awesome that you guys are doing that, Terry.

09:44 Terry Linscott
I appreciate that. And, and it really is. And what I’ve seen, this is the beautiful thing for me, Chris, is prior to me taking over, we had like typical churches, you have, uh, women dominant. Right. And what happened is I stepped in and just shifted a little bit.

And now we are a, we’re, we’re probably a male dominant leadership force more than we are a female dominant. And I have nothing against women, I’m all for women. Uh, I believe in the women in ministry, I have no issues with women preachers and leaders. I don’t have any of them. But I do believe that in society, when the, the men take the lead, then that’s when you start seeing great success.

And so what I started to do is challenge men to be men, to be men of God, and to do, and take their, their rightful role in society, in the church, and in the home. And I’m telling you that, that alone, man, it, it, it’s not that that’s the only way, but that’s one of the key factors that I really see in my church.

10:46 Chris Grainger
Well, it blew me away when you were talking earlier too. I mean, if you got guys that are in the thirties and forties, I think you even said fifties, surrendering their life to. That just doesn’t happen. I mean, that that’s what you’re, Statistically speaking guys. I mean, I, before you guys go crazy like that, usually if you don’t get ’em by their time, they’re what?

25? The stats say like, you’re not gonna get ’em, but you got, you got a message and it sounds like you have a pretty masculine message as well around leadership and that’s what men, that’s what they need to hear. So, I mean, hats off. Keep, keep doing it. And maybe let’s, let’s talk more about it cuz when you talk about anointed leadership, some guys don’t even know what that means.

I mean, that can be a confusing word, just that, just an anointed word in general. So what do you mean when you say anointed leadership? What do you talk about there?

11:31 Terry Linscott
Yeah, so in First John, the Bible teaches that we all have an unction or it’s uh, uh, the anointing is what we call it, right? The word anointed means a supernatural divine.

Enablement. It’s, um, what I see it as, it’s a super on your natural. So Romans teaches that we, in Romans chapter 12, there are the seven gifts of the Father. And those are great. Those are what every Christian has, and that’s what God enabled you to do. But there’s an anointing that comes alongside of that, and that is the whole, the person of the Holy Spirit and John 14, 15 16.

It’s what Jesus prayed. He prayed that the Holy Spirit would help you. The Holy Spirit would comfort. The Holy Spirit would guide. But the word, the, the word anointing is something that smears on and, and on your life is what that word anointing the old covenant, you know, they take six quarts of oil and mix it up with some different ingredients and dump it all over you.

Well, that’s not, Thank God we don’t do that today, man. I’m telling you, . Yeah. But what it we, we find in the New Testament, what Jesus was teaching is this is the empowerment of the Holy Spirit in your life. See, we get, We get saved and the Holy Spirit lives in us. And uh, and that’s great. And that’s what gives us the ability to have life and to walk fullness of God.

But then Jesus that says that, and the, the, in Luke chapter four, that he, he, the Holy Spirit came upon him. He was in him and he came upon him. And it’s the power, it’s the ability to do what God’s called you to do. And see, I believe that the word husband and the word wife really doesn’t just mean a partner.

It means the anointing. So that if I’m a husband to my wife’s name, Shante, if I’m a husband, I have the anointing. To husband Shante. No other man can, you know, I believe this is God’s design is I can pray for her. I can lead her. I can wash her in the word, I can help her. I, she’s not my doormat. She’s not my, you know, weaker person that she can’t do nothing.

But my job is that ano that supernatural ability to enable me to do everything God’s asked me to do. That’s what the anointing is all about. And I believe that that anointing is needed in the home. It’s needed on the job. It needs it in the neighborhood, it needs it on, you know, the golf course. You need that anointing on your life to just function today.

Yeah.

13:46 Chris Grainger
I love it. So you maybe have guys that are listening right now, like, Okay, that sounds great. How, how do I know if I have it , what do you, what do you do?

13:54 Terry Linscott
You know, Jesus . So ultimately it’s, do you know Jesus? Man, this is the package deal. Uh, I, I’m a, I’ve been saved many years. I, and, and in the ministry for 30, One of the things that I realize is what, when we have that relationship with Jesus and Chris, I think you talk a lot about the, the, the, the first things of every day is in the word and, and mm-hmm.

discovering who you are in the word. And I think one of the package deals of God is that, is, uh, that anointing. You know, when, when it says in, uh, Romans, if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, you’ll be saved. That word saved is so. That Sozo doesn’t just mean a name written down. It means, uh, pro pr being preserved healthy whole, uh mm-hmm.

restored all, all everything. It’s packaged. So when Jesus comes into your life and he lives on the inside of you, his prayer in John 14 through 16, the chapters was that man, the Holy Spirit, we get in you and get on you right. And help you fulfill everything he’s called you to do, to do. And, and I think every man has that.

Every woman has that anointing and it’s something you can’t see. It’s not like Old Testament and it’s the oil being poured all over. It’s, it’s just something that changes when your spirit man comes alive through Christ. That, that we understand, like you do every day, is read your scriptures. It’s, it’s the defining who I am in Christ.

And, uh, you know, I know it’s a great, it’s, it’s like how do you know man? You just know, you know, you know when you’re knower if you will, you know, and, uh, and, but that’s part of Jesus living in you.

15:32 Chris Grainger
Amen, bro. Hey guys, we’ll take a quick break. We’ll be right back.

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So Terry, I’m curious, when you talk about, you know, specifically leadership and anointing in leadership, maybe give us, is there a common myth sometimes guys, when they think about leadership, they have this, this vision of what leadership looks like. Is there a myth out there around leadership that you like to debunk right now?

Uh, for, for some of these hard headed guys that listen to the line with Dennis? Uh, sorry guys. You know, I’m gonna call you out like that. Yeah. But, uh, is there anything, when you think about leadership, is there any myth that dis guys kid it completely.

17:00 Terry Linscott
Yeah, I, I think that people get this one thing wrong, uh, leaders are born.

I think that’s a myth. Yeah. I, I think that is poor because Timothy says, Paul told Timothy, if any man desires the office of a bishop overseer, which is, we know from the Greek is leadership, if you desire leadership, So that tells me I don’t have to be, I’m not born. It’s a desire of my heart. Now I think leadership comes easier for some people because I think they have that desire, that passion, but everybody has the ability to be a great leader.

Uh, I also believe that in, in Christianity that the moment that you get saved, you become a leader. I mean, that passion, that desire, because leadership simply is influence. It, it really, I mean, I think, you know, you listen to John Maxwell, maybe a Craig Rochelle leadership stuff. Uh, you hear other people out there that I can name other leaders, and a lot of ’em will tell you that leadership simply is influence.

It’s how you influence. And so I think too many times I’ve heard it growing up that, uh, even my, some of the people that I’ve listened to have always said, you know, that, you know, leaders are born, that he’s a born leader. . I just don’t see that in the Bible. I don’t see that in scripture. I don’t see that.

Mm-hmm. , I see there’s giftings, but not leadership. Leadership is that desire. Mm-hmm. . So I would say this, Listen, when you come to know Christ, you gotta understand he called you to be a leader. He called you. It’s just like this. He told the disciples, Come and follow me and I will make you a fisher of men.

And so the word making you is the, is the ongoing preparation and development of your life. Part of that is being an influence to impact your, your sphere of influence, right? It’s influential in every area of your life. And especially as men in our homes, I, I mean, my word, we need men to rise up and understand.

God has anointed you to be a great leader, first of all in your house, right?

18:55 Chris Grainger
Should they start there? I mean, is that, is that where

18:57 Terry Linscott
you Yeah, absolutely. I, I, I think first of all, you gotta lead yourself. That’s the first thing. I think you gotta set yourself up for success, uh, by doing certain things. I think you gotta take care of your health.

I think you gotta take care of your money. I think you gotta take care of you. I think if you don’t lead yourself, how do you lead your wife if you don’t leave yourself? How do, how do you lead your kids? But I ultimately think, I teach young ministers and people, I’ve been in the ministry for 30 years, but senior pastor, two and a half now, or almost three, and I teach people this.

They want a pulpit and they want a, a congregation. They want somebody to listen to them. And I tell all of these young people starting to that starting out, you have a great audience and a great congregation, especially if you’re a man in your. You start preaching the word to your wife and you start preaching it to your kids, preach it to your dog, your cat, your bird, your snake.

I don’t care. Start preaching there. Don’t wait for a podium, a pulpit, right? And so the Bible really instructs every man to, to wash their wife in the word. And that’s what leadership is. And if you don’t lead there, how do you lead a church? How do you lead a business? How do you lead in society, Man, if you can’t get your own home to follow you, right?

And for you

20:10 Chris Grainger
guys preaching that keep, keep preaching brother. Cause the guys that hear me say this plenty of times before, if you’re waiting for a pastor one hour a week to lead your family spiritually, you’ve completely missed a boat and you’re not reading scripture the right way. So, I mean, I I’m all over, man.

I’m with you. Look, you got, it’s, it’s a, it’s a everyday opportunity. What, how, who are you gonna show up? Cause if the same man shows up Monday through Saturday as it does on Sunday now it’s easy. To put on a nice facade and look good on Sunday morning and do the, the, the blessed and highly favored handshake to everybody.

Right? Like, whenever I hear that, I call dudes out, right? Immediately I’ll call ’em out. I’m like, Tell me what’s really going on, brother. Like, something’s , you know, but I mean, there’s such an opportunity to lead in our homes and we just miss that. We don’t even think about it, and it’s like, Dude, it’s right here in front

21:00 Terry Linscott
of us.

Yeah, it, it, it definitely is. I mean, I, I’ve got four kids, man, and, and I think we were talking off the show, you know, I, I sometimes call myself a 50% or I got, I did it 50% right. You know, at least I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m batting 500. I think that’s a great average. But, but the, the reality is, is I was started off in my life as my, as a parent, the first 11 years of parenting.

I was, I wasn’t leading my kids. I was more interested in me, uh, in my, my perception and what people thought, my reputation and, and I thought that people viewed me based on my kids’ behavior. I guess I missed , I missed the verse that said, In the heart of a child is foolishness. Right? I, I, I guess I missed that thought, you know?

And so I was really more interested in their behavior than their heart. And so I wasn’t leading, I wasn’t being the husband of my house and, uh, the father to my children. I was more interested in Terry. And I think that my oldest was 11 years old, so he was 11, 9, 7, and five at the time. And I realized, man, I’m all wrong.

I’m all jacked up. You know, I’m trying to be at a, at that time, an associate in my church and let people lead, listen to me, But in my own home, my kids, man, they don’t, they don’t wanna follow me. They don’t wanna talk to me. And my, my oldest was 11, and so I had to shift. The way I was leading in my house, I had to shift that I stopped worrying about their behavior and I knew that I would deal with the behavior.

But the problem is as the heart, whatever’s in the heart is gonna follow. And so I started leading my kids to have a relationship with Jesus Christ more than I was interested in my own personal reputation. You know, that the name on the back of the shirt was Lin Scott rather than Jesus. And I had to shift that mindset.

And, uh, it really, it took work, Chris. It took tons of work and took tons of, uh, trying to repair, you know what I mean? Uh, what I had messed up in 11 years. And that anno, I just go back to that anointing, man, what, what? I would’ve took me another 11 years. The anointing allowed a shorter process to see that repair with my oldest son and my second son.

And, uh, I just see it that way. You know, I stopped worrying about everything else. and I started really focusing on my f my family, my wife and my kids. And I’ll tell you, that was what, almost 20 years ago? Yeah. And 19, 20 years ago. Today my kids, all four, my children and I have a great relationship. They love to be at our house.

Uh, my wife and I, man, we’re the b best of friends. Uh, and it, but it shifted 20 years ago Yeah. Of learning that I first gotta leave my house and I got more interested in them than I did everybody else in my church. Amen,

23:37 Chris Grainger
brother. I mean, guys, as you think about this, think about when you show up at the house, you know, what does that, what is that environment like?

So, Cause it sounds like Terry’s environment is very, it was very, it shifted to where, you know, it was, it, it was a very loving, warm, uh, relationship led environment. Whereas, you know, if you’re just, if you’re just a dictator, if you’re just a rule rule maker and an enforcer, you know, what, what are you doing there to really foster those relationships?

And Terry, you’re. Thank you for sharing that. For, for one, being so transparent cuz this is what guys need to hear, you know? Cause it’s easy to think you, Terry’s got four kids, he crushed it the whole time. And you were, you, you were very honest. Like that first 11 man, I was missing the boat, you know? And, and this is what I had to do, so.

To me, it’s very, it is an encouragement word just to hear that truth, brother. So thank you so much.

24:27 Terry Linscott
Yeah. And, and it’s not easy, right? It’s, it’s not hard to really admit the fault, but the reality was I was doing it all wrong. And, uh, I was trying to lead people rather than my house. And I shifted that mindset.

And now I lead my house even today as an empty nesters. You know, my oldest is a senior in college. She lives at home and goes to college locally. And, uh, but she lives in our basement by herself and has her own in and out. And me and my wife feel like empty nesters. But I still lead, I still lead her. Yep.

I, I still wash her in the word. I still pray with her. The things that we did 20 years ago, we still do today, even without kids. And, and, uh, I will tell you what, man, I wish I would’ve learned it earlier, but I’m grateful that, that I’ve, I did learn and I shifted that. Amen

25:10 Chris Grainger
brother. And, and I love how you mentioned influence cuz I mean, so many guys they hear that word and they want to have it also For me, I tie influence and I tie serving together.

So I tie to me, I also, I tell guys a lot of times to lead is to serve then, but then sometimes guys don’t like serving . So it’s like, all right, trying, I’m trying to help you understand guys, to be a, to be a leader, you really have to serve. So maybe speak to the guy who. Really embellish serving as much.

They just wanna be that leader. The difference why serving is important, cuz serving can create influence.

25:44 Terry Linscott
Yeah, absolutely. I I love that. That’s a great question and I love it because I hear that a lot. And so I always ask, Well what did you think the disciples did, you know, before they became the apostles, you know?

Right. And uh, so for three and a half years they followed Jesus to become and uh, he taught ’em to be ushers. Cuz remember they fed the 5,000 and he set ’em down in fifties and hundreds and that was their job. He, they were the waiters. They had to pass out. They were the bus boys. They had to clean up, you know, uh, they were the, I call ’em Uber drivers today for, to go get like, or DoorDash or whatever, right?

Remember when the woman at the, at the, well, they had to go pick up Jesus food. It took 12 of them to go get one guy some food. Come on man. I’m just . This is how much the Lord trusts men. If that have been a woman, he’d have sent one woman, . That’s right. That’s right. So I think about, I think about those guys, man, and I think what they went through, they were security.

They, you know, the widow, the woman with the issue of blood and he, they’re trying to keep people off of it. Just everything was serving just like a local church, if you think about it. You know, they, they, they did everything in the body of Christ to become who they were. And it wasn’t until Acts chapter, what, six or seven where they did the deacons and, and at that point it was like, man, that.

The church had grown, they were still working it, and then they had another responsibility. Paul said, Follow me as I follow Christ. Well, Paul was a great servant leader, you know what I mean? That man, one of the greatest men of all the Bible, I think. And, and what he did, he was, he was never, uh, putting anything, be, uh, beneath him.

You know? He, nothing was better than or beneath him. That man was just the idol. If you an icon, I should say, uh, of what Christianity looks like. And, and, and if we’re going to lead our family, we gotta say, follow me as I, the word as I is, do what I do. So leaders in servant leadership is way I do it, is if I, they don’t see me do it, then why?

That doesn’t mean I have to do everything, but I gotta prove that I will serve, that I will do nothing is beneath me. And so, you know what? I, I just actually had a, a, a staff briefing and we’re doing a major event at our church this weekend, an outreach of crusade. And I paused everything in the ministry, in the church, and in my staff.

And I said, Listen, everything I’ve asked you to do goes on pause today because we’ve gotta pull off this, this crusade. And that goes for me. If you need me to cut papers, I’ll cut papers. If you need me to fold, I’ll fold. What do you need me to do? Do you need me to go mow the grass? I’ll mow the grass. And so I think when you talk about leadership, people wanna follow that.

They don’t wanna follow a dictator. Nobody wants to follow somebody that just tells you what to do. Well, Paul said, follow. As I so do what I do, not just what I say. Right? And I think we have to get that mindset is Jesus didn’t come to be served. He come to serve. And so that’s the whole goal. You know, I’m serving you on your platform and podcast today.

You served me on mine. And, and that’s what it is. It’s how do we network and help each other with our gifts? And some gifts are different, but are you willing to use them? Right? And, and do it that way and follow what Jesus did and also follow what, uh, what Paul did. And that’s kind of the thing for me is be willing, man.

It’s the greatest thing to help somebody else in serving. It’s, it’s the greatest reward in your heart is when you lay your life down to do something for somebody else.

29:07 Chris Grainger
I love it. Not when you were, when you said that, that as I follow me, as I, it was very close to something and I teach guys where, I don’t know, where I try to coach with guys around.

I tell ’em more is caught and taught. And the whole idea is, look, they’re, they’re, particularly when you’re talking about your kids, leading your children, but even your wife and those, this goes for everywhere. Work, community church, people are paying a whole lot more attention to the actions you take versus the words you say.

Right? So, I mean, you could, you could say all these wonderful things. You could be scripturally, I mean, you could just preach right outta acts, right? And just, and just roll it out, send it to dinner table, and then get up and start, you know, kick the dog and kick the cat when nobody would say anything if you kicked a cat.

But anyway, if you keep all that stuff and, and. You know, it’d be a different man. A different man shows up in their actions. That’s what the kids, particularly their children are looking at is this sort of more is caught and taught. And it sounds like that follow me as I Yeah, really that, that, that’s the same, same mindset, right?

30:05 Terry Linscott
Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I believe that I, and I actually teach that here, is you can teach vision or you can catch it and you know the people that are catching it, you know, uh, habitus is write it down and he who reads it will run with it. Well, that reading it, the word read in Hebrew doesn’t mean just logo. It means something that has deposited inwardly, that it creates a passion to go after.

Okay. And that’s what it’s all about is, is catching it. And, uh, your kids are never gonna catch it. If they see you, Can I just be really honest with you? Go outside, mow the grass while I sit here and use the remote control and click on the tv, you know? Right. Um, it, it’s like they go do it. Then you go, and maybe you didn’t do this.

Maybe I’m the worst dad out there, but I reprimanded him for things that I never taught ’em how to do. I never showed ’em how to do. And I’ve done that and, and because I didn’t want to go do, I thought it was too much time to go out and show . By the way, those were great parenting moments. Those are great relationship building moments, you know?

And so, and I miss that in the first 11 years of my kids’ life. And so I had to adjust in those moments where I actually got up and went out. And that’s one of the revelations that I got reading in first Corinthians 11. One is follow me as I, and that word as I was like, Whew. That was just two simple words, you know, just little letters as I, and it’s like, well, what am I doing as a dad?

What am I doing as a husband? Not what am I doing as a, an associate or a pastor or a business owner? What am I doing as a father that they are following? And, and when I look back, they were doing exactly what I was doing and, and how I was doing it. Bucking their mom, complaining about work, uh, didn’t want to do anything.

And there was, you know, it’s hard to get kids to do chore. Only if you’re constantly complaining about your own chores, but when you teach that this is what we do and take responsibility for life and why we do it, and you take those moments, I’m just, maybe nobody else out there is as bad as I was. But that’s how I was.

And I shifted that stuff, you know? And my kids have no, all three of my boys and my daughter have no problem with work today. They have no problem showing up for work today. They know the responsibility. They’re not looking for being entitled in just something owed to them. Why? Cuz dad got off his lazy rear end.

If I could be that blunt, you know, that’s the way I passed her anyway, is lazy rear end and stopped thinking everybody, he needed to be handed to me cuz I become the man and actually showed my kids and taught them in those moments of how to and why do you? And so yeah, that ha But they never would’ve caught that, Chris, I don’t believe if I would’ve never got off the couch.

32:41 Chris Grainger
Amen brother. Hey, we’ll take a quick break. We’ll be right back guys.

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Terry, you were all over it. I mean, cuz so many times, guys, you know, it, it, we just wanna point and point and go and just, and just tell ’em versus actually get up and make and, and do the work. And to be a leader, you do have to do the work. I mean, you have to get out. I mean, leaders, they go first, they’re out front.

They’re showing they’re, they’re, they’re, and they’re helping people all along. I’m so glad you bring that up and I’m so glad you teach that. And I’m gonna go spend some time in first Corinthians 11 now that as I, And, and, Cause I tell you one thing, man, when you went through that, that was convicting brother.

Yeah. I mean, that was really, uh, impactful because I mean, too many times I have, you know, I have two, two olders. I have a 12 and or 10 year old, then I got too littles. I, I have one little, and then I hope preferably in November, uh, our, our son will be with us. So I’ve made some mistakes with the older ones too as well, man.

But I’m trying to, as you’ve, as you’ve pointed out, you know, just really fix things and make sure I’m leading them well, you know, and doing all I can to show up every day. And make sure they see the same dad, you know, every day, you know, the same man, rather in the world that they do, you know, here at the house.

I mean, it’s, yeah, too many times we try to separate ’em. No, we can’t separate it. Either you’re a follower of Jesus and you’re doing what he’s telling you to do at all times, or you’re not, And I think that’s called a hypocrite. So let’s go ahead and make sure we’re, we’re leaning in and, and, and, and following whatever he’s called us

34:51 Terry Linscott
to do.

Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. You know, I, I think that the last thing I took off of that was, you know, in, uh, John 14, it says that the, when Jesus said, Hey, this is what I’m praying for and I’m getting ready to leave, but I’m gonna send you a helper. And, and I take that word helper and I realize that he’s a helper when I start doing, but he’s not the doer.

Right. You know, I’m not, it’s not Jesus working for me. We’re co-laborers with Christ. So it’s, it’s understanding that we tie and, and I know some people may not like this idea, but we tie the hands of God in our own lives when we stop doing anything. and we think that because we’re Christians that Jesus will just do things.

No, that’s not what the word says. The word teaches us that he’s a helper to us. He will help us. He will teach us. He will remind us. He will enable us, but we gotta step out. You know this, the word to Peter was come when he said out of the boat, and that word released Peter to be able to walk on water.

Well, if the Lord never told him to come and he tried to walk you with a sunk, but because the word said come and Peter had to do something, then he couldn’t have just said, Cool, I get to walk, but never step out of the boat. Right? He never would’ve walked on water. Same thing in your, in your leadership, in your house and your job, whatever it is, is you gotta do something.

And when you start doing it, and this is what I really teach, is that’s when the super gets on your natural, that anointing gets on you to help you do what God’s called you to do.

36:19 Chris Grainger
Amen. Bro. I mean that’s, look at the lion within us guys. I mean, holy, I mean, seriously, we started this. Had no idea where it’s going.

And God, I love the super in your natural that needs to be on a t-shirt. By the way, Terry, if you don’t have that in a t-shirt and your church right now, you’re totally missing an opportunity, brother. But anyway,

36:36 Terry Linscott
I mean that’s, I hear God ,

36:39 Chris Grainger
but I mean, seriously, lean in, do the hard stuff, put in, just get it to him.

Too many times we put God in a box, guys, and we, we wanna try to keep God in a box. As long as I’m feeling comfortable about the what I’m doing, then I’m gonna do it. But I, I, I wouldn’t dare to get outta my comfort zone because that’s, that makes me uncomfortable. But you know what, That may be got where God is leading you.

And if you get, if you never given my opportunity to give you the blessing, you’re not, you never, you’re not gonna see what’s gonna, what could happen. So, man, so thank you for, for that challenge. Cause that was a really, a great challenge right there. Amen. Curious. You’ve talked about it a couple times already about leading your wife and too many guys get this, they, they crossed this up.

So maybe we can, we can circle the wagon a little bit on this area when it comes to the, to the, to the, uh, area of leading our wife and lead, leading our spouse the right way. How do you counsel guys? You know, where, where do you start? You know, maybe if you see ’em going wrong, where, how do you help ’em get back in the right?

Yeah.

37:42 Terry Linscott
Well, I’m gonna be honest with you. Being married almost 30 years, that’s not easy. You know, . Amen and amen.

My wife is, uh, I, listen, I love her. I love her with everything in her, but she is, she’s sometimes hard to lead, right? Because she has her opinions and, and, you know, we, we have these sayings, happy wife, happy life, and things like this. Happy spouse, happy house, and, and all of those are fun to say, but the reality is, uh, that’s not the way it goes.

You know, Proverbs 31 woman, my wife says this to me all the time, She said, I never signed up for Proverbs 31 woman. So be careful, . So , I love her honesty, , She said, I did not ask for that. I didn’t, I didn’t sign up for that verse, so I’m gonna take it out. No, so it, it’s, it’s understanding roles and understanding what leadership and dictatorship looks like.

And I think so many men, actually, if I could rephrase that, so many women struggle with being led by a man because, The way we’re leading them, it feels like we’re telling them what to do. And that’s not what leadership does. Leadership empowers leadership, uh, washes, leadership influences. And as a husband, if I get to speak it this way, you should know the vision for your house.

You sh you’re the jo, you’re the, you’re the, the habit that writes the vision down. Who are we? What do we do? What is our, what’s our purpose? How do we affect the kingdom of God? Uh, what are we gonna do in the church, the local church? Because we as a family should be a part of a local church, a local body of community, of people that are reaching the loss, that are fulfilling a vision.

And we should be the ones that set that. Uh, their, uh, woman’s job, according to Proverbs 31, is to manage all of. , and this is where it over, this is where the problem becomes, is the corporate level world mindset is the owner. The leader doesn’t do anything but sit in the corner office and the managers run all the, all the work.

And that’s the problem. It’s called servant leadership for a reason that we serve together, we choose to do it together. Mm-hmm. . So we have to teach our wives the word of God, not what we want. Not demand things, but wash them in the word, Wash them in prayer. You know, my wife and I, we pray every day together.

We, we grab hands in the morning. Uh, sometimes if I, if she’s in bed still and I’m leaving the house, I always go back home. And before she leaves, we grab hands and we pray together. Uh, and why? Because when we pray together, there’s a, a level of intimacy that comes with the Father. We’re asking the Holy Ghost to get into our marriage and the anointing of God to get there.

And, and it could be a simple 32nd prayer, doesn’t have to be long, right? But that, that prayer opens the heart of transparency and intimacy in our marriage. Now that I can start speaking to her about what I see, things that I’m doing, what I believe we’re supposed to do, where we’re supposed to go, what deci, where do we have location changes, demographics changes?

Do we have career path changes? What does that look like? Well, if you don’t pray together, if you don’t read the Bible together, break bed bread together, you know the book of Acts as they met in the in houses daily and broke the bread. Together daily, which is not just food, but it’s also the word of God.

So every day, if it was important, then it should be important in marriages. And that’s really the first place where we do it. If you’re gonna have your wife lead you, you don’t tell her what to do. You pray through it together. Me and my wife, what I had to shift from I is telling her what we’re doing and, and say, Hey babe, these are the things on my heart that we need to pray for.

We need to ask God for wisdom in this area of direction. This wisdom of, We even started with our second kid, our, our, Sorry, I’m trying to think. I got four kids, Third, third and fourth kid. We went to prayer. You know, we didn’t, we did not pray for our fourth child. It was one of those things that she didn’t want, uh, I didn’t want.

And she was, our daughter was the grace of God for us. Uh, but we, she was unplanned. And so our third child, our second and third child, we were praying for and praying for specifics. And I went to her and we prayed and, and we, we were praying for girls and we got two boys. And so we, all of that. But our fourth child, we didn’t pray and not, when we didn’t pray together that disagreement.

This we love our daughter. She’s my baby girl, man, she’s dad’s princess. You know, she gets her way spoiled. But in the beginning it was tough because with yeah, where there was no prayer in a. It was hard. It really was. And, uh, and so I say all of those things that if you’re gonna lead, don’t lead with dictation, lead through prayer.

That’s the number one way as a husband, is just praying with your spouse. And some people, I have had men, Chris, ask me this, Well, I, I’ve never prayed. How do I pray? I was like, Man, just start somewhere and God will begin to lead you. And I tell ’em this, grab their hands and say, Hey, we’re gonna start something new.

I want to wash you in the word. I wanna lead you in the ways of God. And so let me pray for us today. And, and we don’t pray things like Lord fixer, , you know, But we pray , we pray for the day. We ask God for wisdom. We establish that the day together in this house, we will serve the Lord like the Bible. As for me in my house.

We will serve the Lord and Lord help us ask for wisdom in the day. And it’s a 32nd quick prayer. And then always end it with this Lord, Thank you for the woman that you’ve given me. That I’ve asked to be a part of my life and to be a partner with me, to be my helpmate Lord, may she always understand that she’s not beneath me, but she’s beside me.

And this is the things that I teach men. These are the ways you should pray, is that she’s not there to just work for you. She’s there to help you.

43:21 Chris Grainger
Right. Man, I absolutely love that, Terry. I mean, it’s so, so important. I mean, I’ve talked to so many guys too, that when they, when I talked to him about the idea of praying with their wife, I actually had him, Dude, you’ll, you’ll, you’ll love this one.

Okay. And he listened to the shows, but I’m not gonna name his name. So anyway, he’s a missionary. And the first time I told him, I was like, Well, brother, one thing we I wanna ask you about is what’s your prayer life? What your, what your wife look like? He’s like, What are you talking about? I’m like, Well, how often do you pray with her?

And he was like, I don’t. I’m like, Okay, well let’s, let’s start there. Let’s, let’s, That’s a great place to pray. I said, I always encourage guys, if they don’t know how to do it, just ask us up a question. How can I pray for you? Let, and then whatever she, she, she may say something, uh, go from there. But man, he turned white as a ghost

He was like, Alright, I’m gonna try this. And then he came back a couple weeks later. He’s like, It’s been the best thing for our marriage ever. Well, yeah, And, and you mentioned, um, you pray in the mornings. Now that’s not a practice I have done with my wife yet. I, we always do our prayer time together in the evening before, you know, once the kids lay down and we, and we go to.

I’m curious, did you see a lot of, uh, a lot of fruit, a lot of value in that prayer time in, in the morning with her as well? It sounds like you, you definitely, Did you recommend that?

44:37 Terry Linscott
Well, I, I did it because of my flexibility. Uh, Okay. I, I actually live a quarter mile from our church office, and I’ve always worked at the church.

So even when we were smaller, I was, we both were working at the church, but we, before we left the, I’m a morning guy, so at night, Yeah. Like, I’m done. I don’t want to study late at night. I don’t want, I don’t even want talk, you know, I want my nothing box and Right. But, So for me, it was the most productive for us.

Okay. Uh, she’s a night person. I’m a morning person, and so sometimes, I mean, I’d leave earlier than she’d get up and that’s why I’d always go back over there because to me it’s the most time that together that we’ll have a small conversation. Uh, it worked for us. I just think, Chris, to be honest with you, whether it’s nighttime, lunchtime, dinner time, I just think if you do it, I think it’s a key component of God’s plan for mankind is to put God in the middle of it.

A threefold, a threefold court is not easily broken. You know what I mean? That’s, and it’s bringing God into your marriage and prayer is how you do that. And, uh, bring a verse, you know, eventually bring a verse to it and, and, and just talk to her about the verse that you read that morning, or whatever that is, or the thing you read.

If you’re a nighttime reader, read it at night and talk to her or Tyler in the morning. What it is, just something that sparks God on the scene. You know, If, if you could, if I could say it that way, that brings God to the, to the marriage. And I’m telling you as, as that missionary said, after a couple weeks, That’s God getting in.

That’s the anointing, getting in, that’s bring inviting God into your marriage, your marriage bed. And uh, I mean literally, if you’re a young man out there and, and, and, and I know you’re a pretty transparent, blunt, um, uh, guy Chris, but for Shante and I, my wife and I, when we were gonna conceive, uh, we were praying together.

I mean, and prior to intimacy, we prayed together and asked God, we never had problems, never had an issue. And I believe it’s prayer, prayer did that even in the, at our younger ages, uh, that God answered us, uh, in, in that moment. And, uh, so I think it’s, it’s vital. It don’t matter when, just get God on the, on the scene, you know?

So, and

46:46 Chris Grainger
the, and the reason I brought that up too, Terry, is, I mean, some of these guys maybe listen and say, Well, you know, Terry’s a pastor, you know, he obviously he’s gonna pray with his. , you know, and, and, but I brought up that missionary for a reason. And look, even guys in, in, in the mission field, you know, in the ministry struggle in this area sometimes.

And if you are thinking that you’re, as a man, you’re listening, you know, you can’t do this. This is just for people in ministry. No, no. It’s for every man. If you have, again, if you trust, puts your trust in Jesus Christ, you are called to do this and to lead your wife. I’m with you, man. You gotta bring the Holy Spirit in.

Marriage is hard just with just, I’m a husband and a wife. Bring in the spirit to help. Right. And that, I think absolutely. There’s so much value in that. And that’s something that we just, we, we overlook too often as Christian men in particular, man.

47:34 Terry Linscott
Yeah. And, and again, it’s like I’ve said, it’s the anointing.

That’s when you bring God onto the scene, it’s his anointing. It’s that supernatural ability to do everything. So

47:44 Chris Grainger
one of the, one of the things you mentioned, and we’re, we’re getting closer to end, Terry, but you mentioned a vision for the house and. You’ve mentioned this two or three times now in this, in this conversation now, is this something that you write down mean?

How, how, how do you, how do you explain this vision? Or how would you recommend the guys listening to go ahead and make this vision actually put that, uh, you know, pen to paper if you will. What, what does that look like?

48:08 Terry Linscott
Yeah, so I read Haba Cook chapter two, and it says, Write the vision down. And he who read will run with it.

So I know that in business that most people will do a business plan. I know when we talked, you were doing a business plan for the, this podcast. You’ve done another podcast for whatever business people out there that start businesses. It’s a business plan. Well, what’s a business plan? It’s basically a vision.

When you think about this is what we’re gonna do, this is how we’re gonna do it. Well, how many of our children know what our family’s about? We know what we do, but why do we do it? Why, why do we attend, um, the, the church that we attend? Why do we, uh, participate in what we participate? Why? What’s important?

Why are we different than everybody else? Why? Just it’s the why to our existence, not just to have a family, to take up space, to have a house, to have a piece of the American dream. If you live in the United States, um, to be a career individual, to be an employee, it’s more to life than that. God didn’t create us to just show up, right?

There’s purpose on everybody’s life and in marriage and in a home. It should be the why. Why do we exist? And so what me and my wife did is I took that back years ago in the late nineties when my, I, I just had the two kids. They were little before we had our third and fourth. And I said, This is who we are.

This is why we exist. Shante Terry, you know, Elijah and Isaiah at the time, this is why we exist, is we are going to be a participant in the vision of Abundant Life Church that does mission work. Uh, whether we go or not, we’re gonna so to it. Why do we give offerings to our, our ministry there? Why do we give, you know, why do we pay our tithe?

Because we want to trust God. The why. This is who we are. This is the foundation. And a lot of times our kids don’t know it, but if you asked any of my four kids, why did we go to Abundant Life? Why are we in the ministry? Why do we do missions? They could sit there and tell. Not based on what the church does, but what is our part.

Mm-hmm. , sometimes we just pray for, you know, we may not ever attend a mission trip, but we’re gonna pray for our missionaries. We may never attend, but we’re gonna so seed to a specific group of people or a certain trip, uh, or whatever it is. It’s a, a crusade, evangelistic crusade. Why do we do what we do?

And I think the importance of your why gives you a purpose now that you can put passion to and your families. And I think you, you, you say this sometimes, is that you say yes to way too many things. You gotta learn what to say no to. Well, what are you gonna say no to? Whatever’s not part of your Yes. Well, what’s your, yes.

What’s your vi what are we doing as a family? You know? Right. Do we have permission? There’s some people that are all about sports. You know, my, my family was, we were a very athletic family, very involved in sports. Uh, all three of my boys, my, my third one went to college on a, at a D one college. For on a scholarship for soccer was an All-American, uh, had great accolades and we went that route.

But what we never allowed is that sport to interfere with what our yes. Primary yes was. Which was the, was church, was God, was Jesus. And when you know that you know what you can and cannot do, the minute you give into your sports, I’m not against it. Cuz I, I mean, I’m an athlete by, by just growing up. Uh, when I start saying yes to all these sports, then I’m gonna tell God no.

I’m gonna tell my wife, no. I’m gonna tell my family no. And so we had to pick and choose based on what our Yes was, which is really the vision. What’s the plan? What’s the goal? What’s the bus? Who in their right mind starts a business and doesn’t understand what they’re gonna go do? It’s the same thing with family.

What are you gonna, And husbands, fathers, that’s, that’s your job, man. That’s, you’re not, We love for our wife to pick what restaurant we know. It’s the greatest argument in every car on the way to, to go eat. Right. Uh, but , why cuz we wanna please them. But in our homes, man, that’s our job. And we get that in prayer.

Who are we? Why do we exist? Man, that was so tough. I hope that helps, man. I I, I just, I just speaking like from my heart, what it’s happened with me, but it really shaped my whole, my whole family.

52:15 Chris Grainger
Absolutely. It helped. And I mean, it is actual, what I love about it is very practical. Guys can take the, take what you just said and apply it to their life right now.

So thank you so much for sharing that. Hey, we’re gonna take our last break. We’ll be right back guys.

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So, Terry, man, you’ve packed, unpacked so much around anointed leadership. I definitely know a lot more about it now. I know our listeners do too. Now, you started a podcast at, at the Abundant Life Church called the Anointed Leadership Podcast. So, man, tell us about that show. What, what do you got? What are you doing there?

What are you trying to serve? You know, the, the mission, maybe the, uh, the vision. So just stick on with our, our theme here of, of what you got going on there with that.

53:45 Terry Linscott
Yeah, So the Anointed Leadership podcast is really all about leadership. Uh, it’s, I’m a senior pastor today. Uh, but it’s not just for churches.

It’s not just for pastors, it’s for anybody in leadership. And, and honestly, uh, part of my intro is you need an anointing on your life. The anointing to husband, the anointing to father, the anointing to mother. And so that anointing gets on you. It helps you grow in leadership. But what I teach is practicalities the simple things of what did, maybe what I did personally, but how did I take the principles of Jesus, who I believe is the greatest leader of all time.

He took 12 men in three and a half years, showed them what to do. He empowered them, he sent them out. Then he said, I’m leaving you and you’re gonna go do this. And then within what, 40, 50 days of Pentecost, 3000. In one preaching because of a, of a man stood up and preached the gospel. That 3000, it said, added to the number that day and every day it was adding.

So, which is an empowerment that Jesus gave. He understood that it wasn’t about his doing, it was about his empowering and teaching. Well, he did it. He showed the work for three and a half. And so the Anointed Leadership Podcast really takes that mindset of taking practical ways to empower people. And, uh, what I teach is from my own personal through the pandemic.

You know, I started the church pastoring in 2020, January, March 15th. We all know what happened, right? Well, my church didn’t decline. And, and as we talked a little bit about earlier, I actually thrived and grew in the worst time of society. And I relate that to, to leadership. I really do. Uh, empowering people, teaching people, uh, trusting people, taking risks, doing whatever God tells you to do.

And many times God spoke to me to do something and I thought that’s the dumbest thing I could do today. But I. And when I did, I thought I was gonna have mud on my face, but it just, it took us to another level. Yeah. And what does that look like in your life, whether it’s business? Uh, I do business coaching, uh, and I don’t promote that, but I do do some business coaching with business people, entrepreneurs, uh, about how to do and do business and how to, to, to refocus and shift back to what I call vision as I talk about it.

Because I believe the vision will keep you in the middle of the road. And anything that you’re not supposed to do, if you understand the vision, you’ll never do it, which will give you full energy into what you’re supposed to. And so the, the show really is all about practical ways of doing business, of doing pastoral.

If I could speak from the pastor side of it, uh, the, the, the statistics are crazy when it comes to pastors in leadership. Uh, basically nine out of 10 pastors don’t know how. . And now if you’re a pastor out there, please don’t be mad at me, but just cuz we can preach, just cuz we have a vision doesn’t mean we know how to lead.

Mm-hmm. , most pastors lead with great control because they’re afraid of the, the ship sinking because of what somebody else may do. But when God’s behind something and he’s breathing on something, there’s no man that can sink it. We understand that. Right? Uh, and so leadership is actually you doing what Jesus did for his disciples is taking people and making them, helping them.

Actually, Ephesians four says that the fivefold ministry is to equip and train for the work. And so, you know, I, I’ve taken that and most churches, most pastors that I know, and I know a lot of them, uh, in, in a couple different networks and, uh, most of ’em are great pastors and great preachers. You cannot deny the fact they understand that part of the gift, but just don’t know how to lead.

And, uh, create followers, you know what I mean? Which really is, I’m not talking about followers, I’m talking about followers, people that’ll follow you to become who God called them to be, which are leaders in their community. So, Right. So that’s kinda what the show’s all about, is really just getting the anointing on your life to be, go do what God’s called you to do and see it done successfully.

57:35 Chris Grainger
Well, I mean, sounds so exciting. You guys, you check out the show notes. We’ll have a link to his podcast. Highly encourage you to add that to your, to your list. Go listen to, to Terry. He has wonderful stuff out there that he’s, he is doing. I think you release, was it every week, every other week? Is your, is your podcast release

57:52 Terry Linscott
schedule?

Yep. Every other Thursday. Uh, I, I release one. Awesome, Awesome.

57:57 Chris Grainger
Well, Terry, you’ve reached a point of line within us. We call it our, our feeding time. It’s the lightning round, so if you’re willing to play, man, we’ll jump in, uh, the, the, the cage here and have some fun. Let’s do it, man. All right, man. So what’s your favorite thing about God?

58:12 Terry Linscott
He’s a loving and gracious God. He doesn’t throw me away today. Uh, he gave me purpose in my heart. I have a reason to live. Um, , he’s amazing. He’s awesome. I, there’s so many things, but real, the, the beautiful thing is he created me on purpose with the purpose. Amen.

58:30 Chris Grainger
Brother. What’s your least favorite thing about Satan?

58:35 Terry Linscott
He’s a liar. He’s nasty. . I, I, there, I don’t, I don’t have anything favorite about Satan, man. He’s under my feet. He’s a footstool. Um, I know brother. I think the liar. He’s a liar, man. He lies so much to people. And, um, and, and that’s one of my things that I hate about him. You know what I mean? I know.

58:57 Chris Grainger
So what’s something that maybe you’re struggling with right now?

59:02 Terry Linscott
Ooh. Uh. I think for me, because I, I, I preach, I just had a message yesterday. My wife just, uh, this past weekend had an emergency, uh, E E R C P. She had a massive, uh, uh, stone inside of her gu her duct. Oh, wow. But she don’t have a gallbladder. The gallbladder was taken out in 2009. So it’s like, how does that happen?

Anyway, I believe in the miracle power of God and I, I was praying for my wife and I, I said it didn’t happen. Why did you know, why, Why did this not work? Why didn’t the healing touch her life like Jesus said it would. So that’s one of the things I’m struggling with right now. It’s not that it, I’m kicking myself, but I’m wondering, The Devil Miller, I told you the thing, the least favorite thing is that he’s a liar.

Like, yeah, he was lying to me that this stuff don’t work. You know, the, the, the gospel’s not real. And so I hear that in my head, and so I’m beating those thoughts right now. That’s the thing I’m really struggling with right now, because I’ve watched, I’ve watched God move so many times in, in my life and through my life that this is that one moment that I’m really, If you ask me today, if there’s something you can pray for me, just pray for me in that moment because, um, I still can’t figure that part out.

1:00:16 Chris Grainger
Amen, brother. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Now, next question for you here. What did you spend too much time doing over the past year?

1:00:28 Terry Linscott
Oh, watching too much TV at night. Okay. . Okay. I, I’m a very meticulous, uh, calendar guy, but I found that my calendar ended around 5:30 PM Okay. So I had way too much white space. Yeah. Because, yeah. I, that in, I wasn’t intentional in the evenings. And so what I found is there was many times that even though I love to be active and busy, I was sitting on the couch watching TV too much when I could have probably been with my grandchild or grandchildren, uh, could have hung out with my kids more, done more with my wife or even done some stuff with guys in the church, you know?

So that’s probably the one thing, just TV consumed way too much. I’m

1:01:11 Chris Grainger
with you. Yeah. Be careful of that stuff. And it is, it, it doesn’t always, it sometimes just sneaks up on us, right? It’s not like it’s intentional. Two more questions, man. What’s a new habit that you want to create moving forward? Or maybe it’s not new one that you’ve created recently.

1:01:26 Terry Linscott
Uh, well, it running . Okay. I hated running, man. I, I’m 48. I played soccer all my life up till I was about 38 years old. Um, I was, uh, a referee for soccer until just in last year, 2021. And that’s the only time I would run to get ex that exercise at cardio, uh, outside that I hated running. I never just ran to run.

And so I created in March of this year, I started. Uh, in a fitness with a trainer and he kept telling me, You gotta run, you gotta run. And I was like, Nope. I’ll get cardio in the gym. I’m good. And actually, it was eight weeks ago. Uh, what is, where were we at September? So it was end of June, I started running and when a mile, you know, And now this past Friday I went six and a half miles.

And so to me it’s, it’s something I just created a habit and it’s like I want to keep doing it because I know what it’s doing for my body. And as long as I add that to my repertoire that my arsal of health, uh, it, it, it, it, and you’re talking for a guy that I, when I reread or play soccer, I didn’t even know I was running.

Cause I love the game. Right. But when it wasn’t the game, I actually had to be intentional and completely disciplined for my own life. Yeah. And so that’s what that is.

1:02:44 Chris Grainger
Love it. Love it. If I get to Kentucky, we’re gonna definitely take a run together, brother.

1:02:47 Terry Linscott
Come on, man. Through hills, .

1:02:50 Chris Grainger
That’s it. That’s it.

Last question for you, Terry. So what’s one thing that you hope that the guys that they’re listening remember from our conversation today?

1:02:59 Terry Linscott
I really hope that they understand that God has anointed them to either be a husband, to be a father, to be a business owner, or a work, a, a, an employee. That you have an anointing on your life, that God supernaturally wants to come alongside you and work with you to accomplish everything that He’s called you and anointed you to do.

And He, he will do it if you just trust him and that you are supernaturally anointed by God as part of the package of s. Love it.

1:03:27 Chris Grainger
Love it. Now, where, where, where do you want guys to con uh, to connect with you to learn more? We’ll make sure we sync up everything, but if you wanna tell ’em right now, that’d be

1:03:34 Terry Linscott
great.

Yeah, I appreciate it. You know, my podcast is Terry, or I’m sorry, my website is terry lins scott.com. Uh, that’s l i n S C O tt.com. And uh, you can find me to connect with me there. Uh, you can get to my church that way if you ever wanted to. I’m on YouTube, uh, I’m on Facebook and Instagram. I don’t manage those things.

I have guys that help me do it cuz I’m not a social media guru at all. Uh, but you can find me there. Follow me in those places. Um, my church’s Facebook has Facebook and YouTube channel. You can follow me there. I really appreciate it and, uh, I hope I can just help somebody.

1:04:09 Chris Grainger
Amen. Well, again, we’ll make sure we have all that synced up for you listeners.

So, Terry, thank you so much for joining us today on the line with

1:04:17 Terry Linscott
thanks again Chris.

1:04:21 Chris Grainger
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guys, I told you that conversation was gonna be powerful. Did I not? So there you go. I hope you got a lot out of it. Go back and listen. He covered so much areas here, guys, but you know, a super on your natural is something I think that I will definitely remember that that anointed part guys, and we just need to make sure that if we wanna lead, as he mentioned as I had, that as I statement in there, are the people you’re leading, are they seeing you show up?

Are you showing up the best version of you every day, Guys, I get it. It’s hard to show up every day, but that’s what we’re called to do. So I pray that this conversation served you well, that you got some tips, some practical ways that you can start applying into your life right now to make a difference.

Now, the question I I, other week, I’ve already talked about it on a spiritual kickoff, but as you th think through this conversation today, leadership does have a lot of confidence. But what does confidence mean to you? Maybe that shifted some just by hearing this conversation, David, that the, the idea of confidence has ex maybe transformed a little bit.

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Okay? So guys, I thank you so much for taking the time. I, so there’s so many different podcasts you’d be listening to. The fact that you listen to the line with is. Means the world to me. I pray again that this blesses you. It was an honor to work with Terry. Highly encourage you to go check out his podcast, you know, Anointed Leadership podcast, the things he’s doing over there.

Guys, I’m telling you what it, it is going, it’s gonna be a blessing to you and your growth to be that leader, your predestined to be. So pray you have a great week. Come back on Friday. I have some really good tips to share with you on our, for our Fun Friday episode. Look forward to, to, to seeing you guys back here then at that appoint in time.

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